User talk:Allixpeeke

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Feel free to ask me any questions you might have, either here or on my talk page. Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. Again, welcome! --Forgottenman (talk) 17:53, 28 December 2010 (CST)

Heya. Smith (talk) 18:49, 30 September 2016 (EDT)


 * Dear Smith,


 * Hi. I'm sorry I have been unable to respond to your "Heya" until now, but it seems you had blocked me.


 * Here is what I read when I tried to respond to you:


 * You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:


 * Your IP address has been automatically blocked because it was used by another user, who was blocked by Smith. The reason given is:


 * Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Sugi362".


 * The reason given for Sugi362's block is "Spamming links to external sites"


 * Start of block: 18:48, 30 September 2016
 * Expiry of block: 18:48, 1 October 2016
 * Intended blockee: 127.0.0.1


 * You may contact Smith or one of the other administrators to discuss the block.


 * Note that you may not use the "email this user" feature unless you have a valid email address registered in your user preferences and you have not been blocked from using it.


 * Your current IP address is 127.0.0.1, and the block ID is #7917. Please include all above details in any queries you make.


 * Even though I did, and do, have a valid email registered with with MisesWiki, I was unable to find any "email this user" feature on your page.


 * Obviously, I could have emailed Allandavisjr, BrandonMises, ClakeB, DickClarkMises, Forgottenman, GMedich, John James, Leucosticte, or Pestergaines, but it seemed to me that it would be more appropriate for me to direct my comments to you as you, and not they, were the one to block me. (That said, they are certainly free to weigh in if they wish; indeed, they are hereby encouraged to.)


 * So, it seems I was blocked because I have the same IP address as another user. I didn't even know it was possible to have the same IP address as another user.  How is that possible?


 * Also, I must call into question this "127.0.0.1" address.


 * Just the other day, while I was on Wikipedia, I made an edit to my personal sandbox. You can see this edit here.  The thing is, according to this, my IP address is not "127.0.0.1"!  According to this, my IP address is "2601:14f:8105:ae10:217:f2ff:fe9c:2261"!  So, why does MisesWiki seem to think my IP address is "127.0.0.1" when Wikipedia confirms that it is not?


 * For what it is worth, I do not know who Sugi362 is, or how she or he might have either (A) acquired my IP address or (B) tricked your system into thinking that my IP address is "127.0.0.1" when it is not.


 * I had only two guesses.


 * As you can see here, I first started editing at MisesWiki back in 2010. It was at that time that I created a page for Left and Right: A Journal of Libertarian Thought.  After that, I took a break from MisesWiki, and did not return until 28 September 2016.  I created two new pages, Murray Rothbard/Quotes/Isabel Paterson and Murray Rothbard/Quotes/Rose Wilder Lane.  I fixed the italics and the default-sort on a number of pages, and I also created a numbder of useful redirects.  As you can see, every one of my edits have been constructive.


 * My first guess was that, perhaps the edits I made back in 2010 were made on a computer of my alma mater, and, as I assume administrators have some way of accessing the IP information of various edits, I was going to ask that you check to see if, perhaps, those early edits were made by a computer using the IP address "127.0.0.1." But, when I saw that my first edit here wasn't until December of 2010, I realised that the timing didn't add up; I had already graduated by that point.


 * My second guess, since I'm not exactly sure how IP addresses work, was that, perhaps, it has something to do with the wifi connection of this computer. I live in an apartment, and whenever I'm unfortunate enough to have my wifi connection broke and have to log back into it, I see the various wifi names of other people in other apartments; even though I am the only user who uses this wifi name, is it possible that all of the different apartments here have the same IP address?


 * Even if that is possible, it would still seem extremely unlikely that it just so happens that in the same week that I return to MisesWiki, someone else in my exact same area has gone onto MisesWiki to make disruptive edits. I mean, what would the chances be?


 * So, I have to suspect that it is something else.


 * I did a Google search to see if there is anything about multiple people having identical IP addresses.


 * On Yahoo! Answers, someone asks the question, "If you have the Same IP address as someone else, does that mean you are the same person?"


 * I began reading the answers, and something immediately popped out at me.


 * The very first answer begins with:


 * Essentially and somewhat simplified there are three IP addresses that your computer will have.


 * The first one is 127.0.0.1 every computer uses that IP address to talk to itself. It's basically like sending a letter to yourself.


 * It goes on to say more, but what immediately struck me was that second paragraph. Notice, that's the same exact IP address that was blocked when Sugi362 was blocked.


 * If every computer uses that IP address to "talk to itself," is it possible that I wasn't the only person blocked when Sugi362 was blocked? Is it possible that every non-administrator has been blocked?


 * That would explain why you sent me a friendly "Heya" immediately after blocking me: you probably didn't even know you had blocked me. You probably didn't intend to block me, and only did so by accidentally blocking all non-administrators.


 * Still, that begs the question, how exactly did Sugi362 get her or his IP address to appear as this universal talk-to-itself IP address as opposed to her or his public IP address? And, why would someone go to all that trouble?


 * I decided to look here to see what sort of edits Sugi362 was making. It seems she or he only made a single edit, replacing one floral-company link with another floral-company link.  I have absolutely no idea why that sort of edit would hold any importance to the editor, or any editor.


 * As an aside, it also struck me as strange that there was a random floral-company link in that page to start with. I did some searching, and found this edit made a little over a year ago, which changed this citation:


 * &#60;ref name="Fetter"&#62;Jeffrey Herbener. &#91;ht tp&#58;&#47;&#47;mises&#46;org/about/3231 "Frank A. Fetter (1863-1949): A Forgotten Giant"&#93;, &#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;Mises Institute&#93;&#93;&#39;&#39;, referenced 2009-04-28.&#60;/ref&#62;).


 * —to this citation:


 * &#60;ref name="Fetter"&#62;Jeffrey Herbener. &#91;ht tp&#58;&#47;&#47;www&#46;tokobungasabana&#46;com Florist Jakarta&#93;, &#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;Mises Institute&#93;&#93;&#39;&#39;, referenced 2009-04-28.&#60;/ref&#62;).


 * (That edit was made by 122.102.45.251, and remained intact until Sugi362 changed it on the 29th. Now, the citation has been removed entirely.  I recommend that we reincorporate the original citation.)


 * The person on Yahoo! Answers goes on to say other things about IP addresses that I, frankly, don't fully understand, and perhaps some of it might explain other reasons why my IP address may have been mistakenly conflated with, or appear the same as, Sugi362's. For what it's worth, though, I publicly declare that I am not Sugi362, that I do not know who Sugi362 is, and that I intend only to make constructive edits to MisesWiki, as I believe my record indicates.


 * Sincerely yours,
 * Alexander S. Peak, 21:08, 1 October 2016 (EDT)


 * I'm just glad to see another person finally on this site. Thanks for all the details.  As you might have surmised, I've basically been left alone to fend off pretty much the lone Indian spammer.  At least, from what I can gather through the IP details I have read through (there were some days where the backlog was really long).  The "127.0.0.1" might be a matter of an error of how the software reports the details, or how things are configured server-side, I am unsure.  Also:


 * >I could have emailed Allandavisjr, BrandonMises, ClakeB, DickClarkMises, Forgottenman, GMedich, John James, Leucosticte, or Pestergaines


 * That would be nice, if they were still active on the site :/. Like I said, it's been really dead and lonely here recently.  I went ahead and just undid the block, but IPs are not unique anymore so that could just simply be it (as you mentioned, a lab computer would do it).  I am unsure.


 * Also also, if you want to change the citation to the correct one, it'd be appreciated.


 * All in all, don't worry about it. Nice to see someone else here.  Smith (talk) 14:57, 2 October 2016 (EDT)

Hello Allixpeeke, nice to see a newcomer and a super active one at that! Not all is dead around here, more of a long-term slumber... maybe you'll wake us up!

Cheers, Pestergaines (talk) 17:36, 2 October 2016 (EDT)
 * A lot of us moved on to other wikis.. but since it appears that Mises Wiki isn't actually moving anywhere, maybe it's time to ask again whether I can have server access to do some maintenance. I think it might be best to put the wiki on its own virtual server (using something like Proxmox Virtual Environment, perhaps); that way, they could give me access without giving me access to all of mises.org, if that's what they're worried about.


 * With regard to 127.0.0.1, there may be a glitch that could be corrected by upgrading to the latest version of MediaWiki. Leucosticte (talk) 23:27, 14 November 2016 (EST)

Infogalactic
There's been talk that maybe we should all go over to Infogalactic. Leucosticte (talk) 12:13, 16 November 2016 (EST)